Monday, December 17, 2012

Unfathomable


Charlotte Bacon, 6
Daniel Barden, 7
Rachel Davino, 29
Olivia Engel, 6
Josephine Gay, 7
Ana G. Marquez-Greene, 6
Dylan Hockley, 6
Dawn Hochsprung, 47
Madeleine F. Hsu, 6
Catherine V. Hubbard, 6
Chase Kowalski, 7
Jesse lewis, 6
James Mattioli, 6
Grace McDonnell, 7
Anne Marie Murphy, 52
Emilie Parker, 6
Jack Pinto, 6
Noah Pozner, 6
Caroline Previdi, 6
Jessica Rekos, 6
Avielle Richman, 6
Lauren Rousseau, 30
Mary Sherlach, 56
Victoria Soto, 27
Benjamin Wheeler, 6
Alison N. Wyler, 6

This is all too hard to comprehend.

I don't "get" guns. I have fired a gun once--at clay pigeons--when I was younger, but I never felt the need, or desire, to fire a gun again, much less own a gun. I do, however, "get" gun-owners, at least the ones who handle their guns wisely, and keep them out of reach of hands that needn't be touching guns.

But I don't "get" the need for having arsenals in one's home; I don't "get" the need to own an assault weapon; the name alone conjures up images of dead children; assaulted. And I don't "get" why we, as a nation, continue to let this happen to anyone, regardless of age, in this country. We do we become enraged at the thought of someone shooting a school full of children, or  a mall full of shoppers or movie goers, only to fixate on something else as the stories of the tragedies, dissipate.

This will continue to happen in this country until We The People demand that it stop.
It will continue to happen in this country as long as our politicians are in the back pocket of the National Rifle Association or too fearful of taking on the NRA because they might lose their cushy public service job.
"The majority of those who died today were children—beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old...They had their entire lives ahead of them—birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own....We've endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years, and each time I learn the news, I react not as a president, but as anybody else would, as a parent. And that was especially true today. I know there's not a parent in America who doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that I do...These neighbors are our neighbors, and these children are our children, and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this—regardless of the politics."--President Obama
I sincerely hope this isn’t just rhetoric in the shadow of tragedy, and that he means it. I sincerely hope he takes up the call to protect Americans, young and old, from being senselessly murdered.

And i hope the anger that the president showed last night, while speaking in Newtown, will carry on; I hope it carries on through his administration, and through the Congress, and through the people, so we don't have these kinds of memorials on a regular basis.
"If roads were collapsing all across the United States, killing dozens of drivers, we would surely see that as a moment to talk about what we could do to keep roads from collapsing. If terrorists were detonating bombs in port after port, you can be sure Congress would be working to upgrade the nation’s security measures. If a plague was ripping through communities, public-health officials would be working feverishly to contain it. Only with gun violence do we respond to repeated tragedies by saying that mourning is acceptable but discussing how to prevent more tragedies is not. But that’s unacceptable. As others have observed, talking about how to stop mass shootings in the aftermath of a string of mass shootings isn’t ‘too soon.' It’s much too late."--Ezra Klein
This is not a Second Amendment issue. I am not advocating taking guns away from people; I am asking that we stop handing out guns to anyone who asks for one. I am asking that we perform adequate and extensive background checks on those people seeking guns. I am asking that we question why people, anyone, feel the need to have closets full of rifles and gun cases overflowing with weaponry. I am asking that we start making people accountable for their weapons.
"Gun control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands. Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones. The only thing accomplished by gun free zones is to insure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun."--Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America.
Yes, let's arm teachers and administrators. The best way to stem the tide of gun violence in this country is to arm more citizens. I am amazed that in the same breath he talks of protecting children from guns, he asks that their teachers be allowed to come to school armed.
"The question is going to come up, where was God? I though God cared about the little children. God protects the little children. Where was God when all this went down. Here's the bottom line, God is not going to go where he is not wanted. Now we have spent since 1962 -- we're 50 years into this now--we have spent 50 years telling God to get lost, telling God we do not want you in our schools, we don't want to pray to you in our schools, we do not want to pray to your before football games, we don't want to pray to you at graduations, we don't want anybody talking about you in a graduation speech...In 1962 we kicked prayer out of the schools. In 1963 we kicked God's word out of ours schools. In 1980 we kicked the Ten Commandments out of our schools. We've kicked God out of our public school system. And I think God would say to us, 'Hey, I'll be glad to protect your children, but you've got to invite me back into your world first. I'm not going to go where I'm not wanted. I am a gentlemen."--Bryan Fischer, "Christian" and head of the American Family Association
So, we asked for this because we keep God out of our Public schools? How dare Fischer call himself a Christian and then basically lay the blame for a mass murder at anyone who follows our government ideal of Separation of Church and State. 

To even suggest that these children somehow deserved their fate because of the laws of this country is disgusting at least, and not at all Christ-like at most.
Fischer is the problem in this country.

Bryan Fischer is Westboro Baptist without the picketing at funerals. He's a Hate Monger of the highest order, basically commenting gleefully that these children deserved to be murdered because God isn’t in the public schools.

Last I checked, God should be in your heart, though it's doubtful Fischer has one.
"We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?"--Mike Huckabee, FoxNews lapdog
Mike Huckabee, another so-called Christian who blames God for these deaths because God was annoyed that he isn’t allowed in public schools any more. I guess God isn’t allowed in malls or movie theaters or, even in some churches, since it’s evident God wasn't at church on ....
  • February 14, 2010 - Richmond, California - Three hooded men walk into Gethsemane Church of God in Christ and open fire; the two victims, a 14-year-old boy and a 19-year-old man, were hospitalized.
  • March 8, 2009 - Maryville, Illinois - Terry Joe Sedlacek walked into the First Baptist Church and shot and killed Pastor Fred Winters.
  • July 27, 2008 - Knoxville, Tennessee - A gunman opened fire in a church during a youth performance, killing two people and injuring seven.
  • Dec. 9, 2007 - Colorado - Three people were killed and five wounded in two shooting rampages, one at a missionary school in suburban Denver and one at a church in Colorado Springs. The gunman in the second incident is killed by a guard.
  • May 20, 2007 - Moscow, Idaho - A standoff between police and a suspect in the shootings of three people in a Presbyterian Church ended with three dead, including one police officer.
  • Aug. 12, 2007 - Neosho, Missouri - First Congregational Church - Eiken Elam Saimon shot and killed the pastor and two deacons and wounded five others.
  • May 21, 2006 - Baton Rouge, Louisiana - The Ministry of Jesus Christ Church – Anthony Bell killed four members of Erica Bell's family; she was abducted and murdered elsewhere; Bell's mother, church pastor Claudia Brown, was seriously wounded.
  • Feb. 26, 2006 - Detroit, Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary Baptist Church - Kevin L. Collins, who reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend, later killed himself.
  • April 9, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - A 27-year-old airman died after being shot at a church, where he had once worked as a security guard.
  • March 12, 2005 - Brookfield, Wisconsin - Living Church of God - Terry Ratzmann opened fire on the congregation, killing seven and wounding four before taking his own life.
  • July 30, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - World Changers Church International -  Air Force Staff Sgt. John Givens was shot five times by a police officer after charging the officer, following violent behavior.
  • Dec. 17, 2004, Garden Grove, California -  A veteran musician at the Crystal Cathedral shoots himself to death after a nine -hour standoff.
  • Oct. 5, 2003 - Atlanta, Georgia - Turner Monumental AME Church - Shelia Wilson walked into the church while preparations are being made for service and shot the pastor, her mother and then herself.
  • June 10, 2002 - Conception, Missouri – Benedictine monastery - Lloyd Robert Jeffress shot four monks in the monastery killing two and wounding two, before killing himself.
  • March 12, 2002 - Lynbrook, New York - Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church - Peter Troy, a former mental patient, opens fire during Mass, killing the priest and a parishioner. He later receives a life sentence.
  • May 18, 2001 - Hopkinsville, Kentucky - Greater Oak Missionary Baptist Church - Frederick Radford stood up in the middle of a revival service and began shooting at his estranged wife, Nicole Radford, killing her and a woman trying to help her.
  • Sept. 15, 1999 - Fort Worth, Texas - Wedgewood Baptist Church - Larry Gene Ashbrook shot and killed seven people and injured a further seven at a concert by Christian rock group Forty Days in Fort Worth, Texas before killing himself.
  • April 15, 1999 - Salt Lake City, Utah - LDS Church Family History Library - Sergei Babarin, with a history of mental illness, entered the library, killed two people and wounded four others before he was gunned down by police.


So, according to Huckabee’s theory, God let children die because of Separation of Church and State. Huckabee is silent on the killings in churches. Huckabee is also, in my mind, not a Christian.
". . . . . . . . ."--The National Rifle Association, on the murders of twenty-six Americans.
They buy politicians; they buy laws; they buy those things with the blood of innocents and then stand on the sidelines in silence hoping not to be noticed.

As I said the other day, when are we, as a nation, going to say Enough! To the NRA and those politicians too cowardly to stand up for us, young and old, at school and church, walking down the street or seeing a movie.

Christmas shopping.

When are we going to demand that this stop? When it comes down to just two of us left standing?

14 comments:

Trickle Down BS said...

Yet, Huckabee wanted to be President...did he think he was going to turn America into a theocracy?...if he had been successful in doing so, would his god then have been satiated and make the massacres stop?

Frank said...

Excellent post. It is utterly unfathomable that there could be any response to this tragedy other than grief and a mindful determination to end violence in this nation of ours and to provide effective, compassionate and humane treatment for children and adults suffering from mental illness. The greed of the few has crippled every aspect of our society, by hoarding the resources we need to ensure the safety, health, and well-being of all of us.

Ron said...

Bob,

Thank you for this post. I still can't get past the horror of what happened last Friday. I cannot imagine the scene when those children and their teachers were trying to escape that madman. Children should not have to fear going to school nor should their parents. This craziness has to end and will end. The NRA and the Second Amendment apologists no longer have an excuse for murder. And Hollywood better get its act together and stop glorifying violence as entertainment.

Ron

designing wally said...

It's amazing how some people can twist their brains around ANYTHING, as long as it justifies their personal beliefs, and to hell with the rest of us....

Ms Sparrow said...

What kind of insanity would dictate that school staffs should be armed with guns at all times? Can you envision this scenario--the shooter in the hallway with his automatic weapons while teachers with pistols are taking potshots at him instead of caring for the terrified children?
And, where would the teacher's guns be safely housed while accessible at a moment's notice? Do these gun nuts ever think things through?

anne marie in philly said...

(applause)

Anonymous said...

A weak attempt to politicize a horrific tragedy & a blatant misrepresentation of Huckabee by someone desperate for validation from people equally dim witted as himself (see above). A feeble attempt at a double knockout of both religion & gun control, a task better suited for the professionals, not Bob, quick to point his trigger finger where it shouldn't belong during times of upheaval. The typical impracticality of a reactionary liberal in full swing here. Should really stick to what he knows best; not being funny & project runway fandom puff pieces. With nearly 120 motor vehicle deaths a day, you won't hear any of the fatties above advocating a car ban.

the dogs' mother said...

I know farm families who supplement the family food supply with hunting. And I know farm families that occasionally are at risk of people stealing certain farm products to make drugs or other dangerous items. And the thieves are very scary people and the farm is remote and take a long time for help to come.
They are the responsible gun owners.

The other gun issues are very troubling and I sure hope that something is done. We had a gun issue in our high school when GB was a senior.

Ms Sparrow said...

My my, the big, brave Anonymous has certainly taken us to task! Yet, he seems to be spouting the standard dimwitted conservative party-line comparing gun deaths to driving fatalities. Methinks he hasn't learned to distinguish between apples and oranges. Sigh...

www.DiatribesAndOvations.com said...

Even the right-wing militant Christian extremists realized that a Huckabee presidency would be a mistake.

anne marie in philly said...

oh look, the troll has returned! let's just ignore him, girls! :)

you probably need a magnifying glass to find his dick; that's why he can't sign his name cause THIS MAN HAS NO DICK!

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness this Assistant Principle jumped into action with his .45 before this kid went on to kill an untold number of students. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting. More heroes like that would do us good. Anne Marie certainly wouldn't have done anything brazenly heroic like that, she's afraid of gripping hard objects in her palm much less a pistol. She’s more apt in the handling of cheesesteaks, completely ignoring all evidence that her selfish eating habits increase all of our insurance premiums and dramatically impacts energy costs. Just a typical liberal hypocrite resorting to unpleasant backlashes in order to sway an audience equally as dimwitted as herself; i.e, when evidence or rational arguments fail to convince.

Anonymous said...

To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow... For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

Anonymous said...

http://www.davekopel.com/2a/othwr/principal&gun.htm