tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post1934771868016479678..comments2024-03-28T22:16:37.893-04:00Comments on I Should Be Laughing: Another One: Carlos VigilBobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15302478126147924237noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-2365629927867760252013-07-22T17:46:01.545-04:002013-07-22T17:46:01.545-04:00:`(:`(anne marie in phillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11765140782182605141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-23017231875366962492013-07-22T13:52:50.685-04:002013-07-22T13:52:50.685-04:00@FRank
Zero tolerance is the best way to combat th...@FRank<br />Zero tolerance is the best way to combat this harassment and torture.<br />If you do it, you're gone.<br />Maybe then the parents of these vicious students might actually step up and PARENT!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15302478126147924237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-87161264176713687152013-07-22T13:28:54.139-04:002013-07-22T13:28:54.139-04:00Very sad and disturbing. Bullying, (and I think th...Very sad and disturbing. Bullying, (and I think the term bullying is too innocuous and 'cute' ) is not just a school problem. The attitudes that underlie bullying are deeply embedded in our culture, or at least in some primitive sub-culture of human imbeciles. It is time for zero tolerance.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04058312079036935995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-37856736498295971272013-07-22T12:50:37.195-04:002013-07-22T12:50:37.195-04:00I was bullied when I was younger. It only stopped ...I was bullied when I was younger. It only stopped after I beat the crap out of a few kids and became "that honor student who spends time in detention for fighting".<br /><br />I wish all it would take for this to end would be to get school teachers and administrators to understand what's going on, but sadly many of them don't want to take action or stand up to bullying.<br /><br />This has to stop. And I'm glad Sean R. IS one of those parents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-82618137935020118472013-07-22T12:32:27.336-04:002013-07-22T12:32:27.336-04:00@Ron
I, too, was bullied for being 'perceived&...@Ron<br />I, too, was bullied for being 'perceived' as gay--I wasn't sure I was at the time.<br /><br />But these days it isn't just a shove in the hall or a bad word thrown at you. It's gangs of kids, and some teachers, and some school administrators, who bully you to your face and all over social media.<br /><br />It's relentless and unending, and some of these kids don't realize it'll get better.<br /><br />That's why I am SO pro-coming out. <br /><br />The more of us who are out, will show these bullied kids that it's okay, that they will survive and thrive and live and love as they are meant to do.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15302478126147924237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-80092612852516713452013-07-22T12:15:28.879-04:002013-07-22T12:15:28.879-04:00Bob
Every time I hear of another "Carlos&quo...Bob<br /><br />Every time I hear of another "Carlos" succumbing to the hate and vitriol, my heart breaks. I wonder why it is that the "Carlos's" don't or can't fight back. I was bullied several times during school but each time I fought back, with my fists. That ended the bullying. <br /><br />I was bullied when I was in Basic Training in the Army. I almost killed the kid who was bullying me. Thank God our weapons were locked up each night in our barracks because if they weren't I am sure I would probably have killed him. As it was I went after him with a broom handle and was stopped before I could get to him. I was lucky. <br /><br />Today I fight bullying by living openly as a gay man in a predominately straight neighborhood. I don't flaunt myself with a rainbow flag or "fag it up" but I do live openly as a gay man and demand to be treated with the same respect as my heterosexual neighbors, co-workers and anyone else I encounter during my daily comings and goings. Just last week I had our marriage announcement printed in the local paper, the first same sex marriage announcement in this paper ever. I'm sure that announcement pissed off some homophobes but so what? They need to be pissed off and confronted that they are no longer in charge and control my life or the life of any other gay man or woman. <br /><br />Because I could handle bullying when I was a 12 year old doesn't mean every young gay child can, I understand that. I wish I had an answer how to overcome the bullying of young people like that. Perhaps we should start first with stopping with the jokes of "that's so gay", and the "fag" references even though it is a joke. And yes, I know I just used that "fag" term in this comment. Teachers and those adults when they see a young child being bullied should step in right away and put a stop to it immediately. I don't think this always happens, the thinking being that letting the child handle the bullying on his own with "strengthen him." That's what happened with me, I never once had an adult go to bat or defend me even though they saw and knew what was going on. Perhaps my biggest disappointment was my father, he wouldn't even stand up for me. I was on my own. Either I fought back or I sank. I decided to fight back. When I was outnumbered I ran away, of course. And when I was in the Army where I would have caused serious damage by coming out, I hid in the closet. <br /><br />You know yourself Bob what you did to survive. So many of us do. However, I do feel bad for those who don't have the sense of self-worth or even courage to stand up for themselves and fight back. To me you either fight back or they win. That's what life is about.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161930319264523497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-51305795006573531852013-07-22T11:13:00.264-04:002013-07-22T11:13:00.264-04:00I wish he would have hang on in thereI wish he would have hang on in thereWonder Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16723949771552274515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-71355828053256319982013-07-22T11:11:48.623-04:002013-07-22T11:11:48.623-04:00@TDM, Thanks for the compliment.
(You too Bob!)
...@TDM, Thanks for the compliment. <br />(You too Bob!)<br /><br />Actually our son was home-schooled for several years until: 1. Mom was burnt out with it. 2. We thought he could handle public school. (His Mom is a certified special-ed teacher. That helps!<br /><br />We're working through some marital trouble right now, which made him more likely to go off on his classmates. This didn't help.<br /><br />We are prepared to pull him out of the school again if we have to. <br /><br />Sean R. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-62489334819982166792013-07-22T10:58:46.770-04:002013-07-22T10:58:46.770-04:00@TDM
Word.
Stop protecting the schools and teacher...@TDM<br />Word.<br />Stop protecting the schools and teachers and administrators and bullies.<br />Protect the students, or pay for it.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15302478126147924237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-37405991248616478692013-07-22T10:57:32.674-04:002013-07-22T10:57:32.674-04:00@Sean
More parents need to step up like you did an...@Sean<br />More parents need to step up like you did and DEMAND that this stop in schools or expel the students doing the bullying.<br />Good on you!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15302478126147924237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-36403521002339769482013-07-22T10:47:04.079-04:002013-07-22T10:47:04.079-04:00Good for, SeanR, one of Those Parents. Schools hav...Good for, SeanR, one of Those Parents. Schools have to face up. Take your children out of public school, get an advocate from your state's group for exceptional kids, hire a lawyer and force the school to pay for it all plus hire me (to be a one-on-one tutor, well, someone like me :-)<br />It has to be more painful (unbelievable as that is) than losing a student to suicide. It has to hurt their bottom line. And states this is going to cost you money - you need more people on the ground to watch over children. Cut out some of your pie in the sky programs or we won't have any children let to take over the work. <br /><br />(rant over for this morning) Wishing comfort and peace to Carlo's parents.the dogs' motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11512888563325865616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19466193.post-12540332334893629812013-07-22T10:27:47.546-04:002013-07-22T10:27:47.546-04:00Bob, this makes me ill reading it. Nobody should f...Bob, this makes me ill reading it. Nobody should feel like they're an affront to the human race just because they exist. <br /><br />We went through something related with our son. He has Aspergers, and some kids thought it was great fun to do things that set him off. We ended up filing a police report when things turned physical, and we held the school administrators' feet to the fire. We became THOSE parents, and that's what it took to send a message to some other parents. Not pleasant but very necessary. <br /><br />Sean R.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com